![]() ![]() What is the first request someone made of you that you were like, Oh, okay, okay, okay? All right, so let’s say around 2005 you start planning some serious weddings. Which I know sounds like a lot, and to my jaded wedding-planning eyes, it’s like, Eh, it doesn’t get you that far. Which at that time, probably anything over 75 was considered luxury.Īnd then you get into ultra-luxury, which then was probably anything over a quarter of a million dollars. So it probably took us maybe two or three years before we were really doing luxury weddings. I think you have to sort of work your way up the ranks. Who’s a real person who’s extremely successful, and you have that kind of name-where it’s like, Oh, Bronson Van Wick. But I should say: You kind of have to work, unless, I always say, unless your name is Bronson Van Wick. So I wanted to go back to a time when you were first starting out planning luxury weddings. Why do we have to mention that movie? Hi, Xochitl. And before that she wrote an exceptional novel called Olga Dies Dreaming about a wedding planner, that was way more intense about the class and race dynamics of the American luxury wedding than the Jennifer Lopez movie. ![]() She just wrote a confessional for the magazine about her years running a luxury wedding business. So because surely some of you out there are attending a wedding or 15 this summer, we are going to talk about weddings with someone who has lived through many, many of them: Atlantic writer Xochitl Gonzalez. Why do we keep innovating and improving on what is basically an artifact from the early 19th century? And yet the wedding just keeps getting more … wedding-y. Marriage is totally different than it used to be. Every wedding is now supposed to look like a luxury wedding and yet somehow cost a lot less than an actual luxury wedding.īut the weirdest thing for me is that weddings still exist at all. Social media seems to have changed the game for the average couple. If you’re getting married this summer, I pity you. I did think of you when I heard that line. Although there’s a great line when the boss of her little wedding-planning operation is like: “I’ve done things no innocent planner should ever have to.” Gonzalez: Of shorthand, right? Like one trope after another. That is like the era of the cultural stereotype. ![]() Every moment of it felt kind of manufactured and awkward. Lo, but I have not dipped into a rom-com from that era in a while. Xochitl Gonzalez: Can we talk about it? Because I know that movie like the back of my hand. Hanna Rosin: I watched The Wedding Planner last night. The following is a transcript of the episode: Subscribe here: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Stitcher | Google Podcasts | Pocket Casts And we puzzle over the big question: Why are we so fixated on this grand old tradition? (Preview: monks pizza an orchid bear.) We talk about how those demands trickle down to the average couple, with delusions of a celebrity-style wedding, done on the cheap. Gonzalez tells us about the out-there demands of the uber rich. In this episode, we talk to Xochitl Gonzalez, who wrote a confessional for The Atlantic about her years as a luxury wedding planner, and authored Olga Dies Dreaming, a bestselling novel about a luxury wedding planner and a cast of obnoxious clients. Why are we obsessed with perfecting what is essentially a 19th-century artifact? Weddings are constantly evolving, but often in the direction of more elaborate, more luxe, more wedding-like. Polyamorous marriages! Yet despite all these evolutions, the ritual that ushers in those marriages-the American wedding-has hardly changed at all. today are radical by grandparent standards. ![]()
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